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Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.
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Information on the process
[edit]What may be nominated for deletion here:
- Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText: and the various Talk: namespaces
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[edit]A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.
Current discussions
[edit]- Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.
September 4, 2024
[edit]This is an WP:RFORK of Music of the Marvel Cinematic Universe that was copy pasted to Draft:Musical themes of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, where it was promptly redirected to Music of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I assume this means the userspace copy gets nuked and the draftspace version is retained? Paradoctor (talk) 01:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
September 3, 2024
[edit]WP:COPIES from white fused alumina (2022-06-23). Paradoctor (talk) 12:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad, please disregard. Paradoctor (talk) 12:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural close - Nominator has withdrawn nomination. Sandbox is a redirect to an article, which is acceptable. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- User:Hiwilms/Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (Philippine game show) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
WP:COPIES from Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (Philippine game show) (2020-09-26). Paradoctor (talk) 12:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per norm DimensionalFusion (talk) 15:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Unlike most of these copies, the originator is active. This may have been used to edit the article. But it is now a redundant fork of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:10, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Dump copy of TikTok#TikTok. Flounder fillet (talk) 01:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per WP:COPIES DimensionalFusion (talk) 11:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete this dump copy, which is a redundant fork. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
September 2, 2024
[edit]WP:COPIES from Ror (2021-08-14). Paradoctor (talk) 19:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Another redundant fork of an article, by a user who came, created this fragment, and departed. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:COPIES from List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 2014 (2014-12). Paradoctor (talk) 12:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - A redundant fork of an article. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:COPIES: Somewhere between the last edit to the content here and the start of The Two Sisters (TV series) there must have been a copy paste move. I'm not completely sure about what actually happened, someone with better sleuthing skills might be able to work out what actually happened, but to me, deleting seems to be about the right place. Paper9oll might be able to shed some light on this. Paradoctor (talk) 07:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Paradoctor Pinged to response, can clarify what is the queries about? — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- From their talk page, it is clear that you have been involved with Deniablities74's draft. Can you confirm that the sandbox content is actually the initial version The Two Sisters (TV series)? Paradoctor (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Paradoctor Nope, the initial version of the mainspace article is unrelated to the user draftspace. Thanks and regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks.
- So we have a stale draft obsoleted by someone else's unrelated draft having been draft.
- So, lurkers and passers-by, what now? Paradoctor (talk) 11:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Paradoctor Nope, the initial version of the mainspace article is unrelated to the user draftspace. Thanks and regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- From their talk page, it is clear that you have been involved with Deniablities74's draft. Can you confirm that the sandbox content is actually the initial version The Two Sisters (TV series)? Paradoctor (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete -
a stale draft obsoleted by someone else's unrelated draft having been draft.
Robert McClenon (talk) 03:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Copy of Formula E. Flounder fillet (talk) 04:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This sort of copy is a redundant fork, which is not permitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Text dump copy of Għallis Tower. Flounder fillet (talk) 04:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This is a useless dump copy. We don't know why the originator used their only edit to do this, but we do know that it should be deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:COPIES from FIRST Stronghold, 2017-01. Paradoctor (talk) 03:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as a redundant fork of an article. Sometimes these sandbox copies are created temporarily in order to edit the article. If so, that use has lapsed. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Copy of List of equipment of the French Army. Flounder fillet (talk) 03:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as a redundant fork of an article. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
September 1, 2024
[edit]- User:PhilippineFootballHistoryMaker/sandbox/YCO Athletic Club (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
WP:COPIES, from YCO Painters. Paradoctor (talk) 14:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support deletion DimensionalFusion (talk) 15:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This is a redundant fork of an article that either never had a purpose or no longer does. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:COPIES, from Star Wars opening crawl. Paradoctor (talk) 11:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - The only edit made by this editor was to make this copy of Star Wars opening crawl. There are two questions, one of which cannot be answered, and one of which can. Why did the editor do this? What should we do with it? The answer to the second question is the opening bold statement of this entry. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:COPIES, taken from List of You're the Worst episodes. Paradoctor (talk) 10:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - This appears to be a redundant fork of You're the Worst, which is no longer the same as the article (which is why such copies are not permitted). Robert McClenon (talk) 02:08, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:COPIES Paradoctor (talk) 09:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - The copying within Wikipedia was legitimate, because the editor was using the sandbox to improve Adenosine A2A receptor, but this sandbox has now become a redundant fork that does not reflect updates to the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
August 30, 2024
[edit]Portal not broad enough in scope to necesitate a portal, not updated since 2022, and entirely encompassed by Portal:South East England DimensionalFusion (talk) 16:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep — perfectly functioning portal, it doesn't matter that it hasn't been updated recently; there's plenty of pictures and content to get cycled through. No reason to delete.
- Cremastra (talk) 17:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Something being functioning doesn't necesitate keeping it. It had a total of 6 daily pageviews in 2023, sometimes being 0 views a day. DimensionalFusion (talk) 18:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - There are three problems with this portal. First, it is little viewed. It had 6 daily pageviews in the year 2023, while the lead article had 765 daily pageviews. Second, it is not maintained. It relies on subpages in Portal:South East England, specifically on those that apply to Hampshire, and there is no indication that this list is maintained. It includes 68 articles, which is a reasonable number. Third, it uses the obsolete architecture of subpages that are partial redundant forks of pages, and so are not updated when the pages are updated. This can lead to discrepancies such as biographies of living persons being displayed for persons who have died. We don't need portals that display information that is no longer correct. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Hall of Fame (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
I marked this as historical [1] eight years ago, as it was not being used, but that was removed nearly a year later when someone decided to start editing it again. I simply do not think this page is appropriate. A self-selected hall-of-fame, with no clear criteria for inclusion, no apparent rules of any kind, no new entries in over three years, and a talk page that has not been used for discussion of the scope and purpose of the page in fourteen years.
Additionally, there are a number of entries in this list of supposedly great people who turned out to be truly awful people, one of whom still actively trolls Wikipedia on a regular basis, and several others who were socking and vote stacking. In fact, it was two of these offenders that created the hall of fame in the first place. These people do not need a memorial to their deceit or dishonesty hosted on Wikipedia.
There's just too many problems here for WP to continue hosting this. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Case not nearly made. Even assuming that all that is really asked for is blank and archive, keeping the history available, the case is not not nearly made. It is not nearly good enough to delete Wikipedia history on the basis that some are alleged to be awful. It may be difficult to write an acceptable essay about how, objectively, some editors, were awful, but to justify the deletion of this history demands it.
- There is no attempt to substantiate ongoing harm. There is no attempt to argue that all involved, especially the modern editors, are awful, let alone an objective net negative contribution to Wikipedia. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
It may be difficult to write an acceptable essay about how, objectively, some editors, were awful, but to justify the deletion of this history demands it.
I'm not sure I understand. I have to write an essay explaining why two banned trolls, one of whom is still actively harassing people over grudges from like 10-15 years ago, are not good people? I mean, that isn't even my only point but to be required to write an essay to justify one deletion discussion is an entirely new concept to me. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)- The ARS team had an admirable motivation, in my opinion, obtained from a distance. Rescuing notable topics sent to AfD is a good thing. So what happened? If you want to selectively delete the history of a a prominent feature of Wikipedia history, I expect there to be a high level summary, at least. I read your nomination as a proposal to retrospectively shut down the ARS, and before agreeing to deletion, I want to see the history documented. SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
I read your nomination as a proposal to retrospectively shut down the ARS
Well, that's odd because the ARS is still active and I have not in any way proposed shutting the whole thing down. I just don't think we ought to host this one specific page, which has no criteria for inclusion and is therefore just a randomly selected list of AFD discussions that random people have decided to highlight.
- The ARS team had an admirable motivation, in my opinion, obtained from a distance. Rescuing notable topics sent to AfD is a good thing. So what happened? If you want to selectively delete the history of a a prominent feature of Wikipedia history, I expect there to be a high level summary, at least. I read your nomination as a proposal to retrospectively shut down the ARS, and before agreeing to deletion, I want to see the history documented. SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
and here's that executive summary you asked for
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Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I, for one, hardly see the listing of an editor here as glorifying them, but only as indicating the the ARS glorifies them. If the ARS continues to exist, it can continue to have its heroes, and other editors can ignore the list. If someone wants to delete the ARS itself, I am willing to take part in yet another vote to delete it as not serving any purpose in the 2020s. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Consensus was reached at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Schleswig-Holstein (2nd nomination) to move this to Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Portal:Schleswig-Holstein, but was moved back by its creator in 2022 after zero substantive changes were made to the portal. If this was 2022, I would revert this unilateral move against the MFD consensus. But this is almost two years later and WP:SILENCE is consensus, so I am back at MFD seeking consensus for deletion from portalspace for the same reasons – primarily because This subject is arguably not broad enough to exist as a standard portal
. No objection to projectspace-fying, if the WikiProject wishes to keep it around. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:33, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to project space per previous discussion. —DIYeditor (talk) 02:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Move to project space as before DimensionalFusion (talk) 11:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - There is no need for this so-called portal and no need to delete this so-called portal. This portal is a large menu. There is none of the usual portal code behind the façade. What is behind the façade is a listing of more than 120 article titles, at which I stopped counting them and did not have a convenient tool to automate the counting. This menu is almost completely unused. In the year 2023, it had an average of 1 daily pageview, while the lead article had an average of 959 daily pageviews. But the user who went to the portal got to look over a list of articles and view the ones that they wanted. I am generally skeptical of portals. This looks like a portal, but it is a menu, and menus are useful for navigation. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
August 29, 2024
[edit]Project was deleted here and per that discussion, was never really a real project from the start. Gonnym (talk) 10:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete userbox for a non-existent WikiProject. —Alalch E. 11:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per above DimensionalFusion (talk) 11:53, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Speedy Delete as G8. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
August 27, 2024
[edit]This is a deprecated page that seems to have been moved somewhere else. Allan Nonymous (talk) 18:31, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support removal DimensionalFusion (talk) 09:45, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - I am not sure what this is, but we do not need it. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Palaeontology/Articles by quality statistics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Transcludable non-template page redundant with User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Palaeontology, which uses a Toollabs tool instead of categories and is regularly updated by a bot. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment A template that is used only on this page has been TfD'd at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_August_27#Template:Assessment_row. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need to delete. Simply replace the page content with a transclusion of the WP 1.0 bot table, which I have seen in many other projects. This will save fixing the many incoming links. – Fayenatic London 19:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have implemented that transclusion, in order to update links between category pages. – Fayenatic London 08:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Old business
[edit]Everything below this point is old business; the 7-day review period that began 01:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC) ended today on 4 September 2024. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion below this marker may be closed at any time without further notice. Discussions that have already been closed will be removed from the page automatically by Legobot and need no further action. |
August 24, 2024
[edit]- Wikipedia:Mediation Committee/Nominations/Thebirdlover (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
I nominated this 12 years ago and it was closed as a speedy keep. The fact that this is not historically useful to the workings of the encyclopedia plus the Mediation Committee since closing up shop should justify this page being deleted. Thebirdlover (talk) 21:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Encourage courtesy blanking, but no objection to deletion. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy blank and keep – we just don't delete nominations like that. The more you draw attention to it, the more it will be seen. Graham87 (talk) 15:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and Mark Historical - No reason to delete. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Has not been edited in over a decade other than moves and provides no useful purpose to the encyclopedia. Plus the mentee requests deletion. Thebirdlover (talk) 21:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, or mark historical. It's in userspace. It's harmless. No benefit is created by deleting this. Cremastra (talk) 17:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and Mark Historical - Who was mentoring whom, anyway? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
August 19, 2024
[edit]- Wikipedia:WikiProject Home Living/Article Guidelines (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
No useful content. This page was written in 2009 and has gotten no attention since. There's nothing here worth keeping. Daask (talk) 15:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are not listed as a member of the WikiProject. Why are you trying to manage a WikiProject that you are not a member of?
- If the WikiProject is inactive, maybe it should be archived wholesale. Selective archiving by deletion is not a good idea.
- How did you come across this page? SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Historical page of an inactive WikiProject. There's nothing here worth discussing.—Alalch E. 15:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The nominator appears to be ragpicking. Maybe the WikiProject should be marked historical. Is that what SmokeyJoe means by archived, or do they have a different concept of archival? If the nominator had some reason to come across the page other than ragpicking, maybe they should explain, or maybe not. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
August 13, 2024
[edit]- Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's Premier League (cricket) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
Unnecessary WikiProject that was created in spite of the objections of a number of users at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Archive 94#Wikiproject WPL notice. As predicted there, this WikiProject has immediately become dormant, because it is a tournament that runs for less than 1 month a year (and so WikiProject will be dormant for most of the rest of the year). Women's Premier League (cricket) is a cricket tournament, and so a breakaway WikiProject from WP:WikiProject Cricket is not required. Note: I do not support any of the existing breakaway WikiProjects (WP:IPL, WP:PSL, WP:BPL, WP:LPL etc), and will be considering nominating them for merging with WP:CRIC too. As per WP:OSE, the existence of these other WikiProjects is not a reason to keep this one. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Joseph and also, accept that I made a mistake as discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Archive 94#Wikiproject WPL notice. I have been thinking about this for a while and was actually going to make a proposal this weekend, which would've been for these WikiProjects to be superseded by respective taskforces of WP:CRIC. Current WikiProjects can be renamed and reworked into new taskforces as shown below.
- Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have just started a discussion about these taskforces at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Merge WikiProjects back into this project, and would personally be more than happy for WPL to have a representative task force. (I was drafting the text for that discussion before I saw Vestrian24Bio's reply here, but agree with what they have said). Please anyone feel free to contribute there. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Joseph2302 just summed up what's wrong with Wikipedia as a whole with the statement
because it is a tournament that runs for less than 1 month a year (and so WikiProject will be dormant for most of the rest of the year).
There's a shit-ton more to "the sum total of human knowledge" than merely regurgitating yesterday's headlines and trending topics. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:05, 13 August 2024 (UTC) - Delete per the nom's opening statement. Recreate if there is consensus to add it as a taskforce.—Alalch E. 15:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Alalch E. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 14:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)