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GA Review
[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:Arrow (missile)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Hi! I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, and should have the full review up shortly.
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose):
b (MoS):
- In the lead, "drawing some debatable criticism." What is meant by "debatable criticism"? Please reword to make clearer. —— ("contested" looks better? Flayer (talk) 00:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC))
- In the Arrow 1 subsection, it says "The Arrow 1 was reportedly a two stage solid propellant missile". Why "reportedly"? —— (no reason, removed. Flayer (talk) 00:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC))
- a (prose):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references):
b (citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
- Current ref #22 is to another Wikipedia page, which is not considered a reliable ref, especially when discussing "controversial performance" issues.
- a (references):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
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- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
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This article looks really nice, but there are a couple of small issues that need to be addressed. Once these are taken care of, the article should be good to go for GA status. Please let me know if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 23:49, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you much, I've been waiting quite long for a GA Review! I'll change this ref #22 tomorrow. Flayer (talk) 00:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed! Flayer (talk) 08:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Everything looks good, so I'm going to pass this article to GA status. Nice work! Dana boomer (talk) 17:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed! Flayer (talk) 08:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
missing references to MDA
[edit]This page lacks any reference to the U.S. Missile Defense Agency's role in the program (MDA oversees the U.S. funding for Arrow as part of its broader missile defense portfolio). This is a major oversight and should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.35.35.34 (talk) 18:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- Corrected. Flayer (talk) 20:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
100 people personnel
[edit]The article mentions it requires a crew of 100 people to operate the system. Even including all technical staff, this figure is about 4 or 5 times too big. 93.173.147.221 (talk) 09:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have any reference? Here is the source of the 100 soldiers personnel: [1]. Flayer (talk) 15:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:13, 31 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)
Arrow (missile) → Arrow (Israeli missile) – There's also Arrow (Russian missile), about a Soviet missile, which would be familiar under its NATO reporting name, so as this missile requires disambiguation it should have enough precision to determine which subject it is about. The name "Arrow (missile)" would redirect to the main disambiguation page Arrow (disambiguation) 65.92.181.190 (talk) 14:08, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Survey
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- Weak Support. Why not? Flayer (talk) 17:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Modest Support - is it the primary topic? The article name could be mistaken for the pointy stick thing fired from a bow. GraemeLeggett (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Any additional comments:
Technically, the arrow (of bows and arrows) is also a type of missile, since archers are a type of missile troops in classical and medieval armies. -- 65.92.181.190 (talk) 03:54, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
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Two numberings of footnotes
[edit]I do not understand why their numbering restarts at the second column.
- I know it is too early and people will probably not even have read the message above, but would it be OK to convert footnotes to, say, {{Efn}} and {{Notelist}} templates, perhaps with {{Notelist |64em}} to keep two columns in wide enough displays?
The reason the numbering restarted is that there was a group=x and a group=y each group had different numberings. I changed all the footnotes to group="Note" so they are numbered 1 to 5. I don't see a need to redo everything with efn and notelist for the purpose of column widths, but that's just me. Everyone has a different screen width and font size so how it looks on your screen is not the same as everyone else. --Dual Freq (talk) 21:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- Precisely my point, 64em makes for adjustment. Granted Notelist is not needed for that. On the other hand, I find it more pleasing if footnotes are denoted by simple letters instead of ‘x #’, and that in the references section they are not numbered the same as citations. But that is just me, too? We could just change group = "Note" to group = lower-alpha and it would be done.
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Conflation of Arrow (1) and Arrow missile family
[edit]I have moved the page from Arrow (Israeli missile) to Arrow (Israeli missile family). Arrow (later Arrow 1) was more of a technology demonstrator. However, this article needs some revisions to get rid of this conflation: for example, Arrow doesn't have fixed specifications because it is not an individual missile. This section should be replaced. Zagreus99 (talk) 20:07, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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