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Season article notability
[edit]I am not sure how The Rookie season 5 and The Rookie season 6 passed WP:AFC when there is only 1–2 sentences under Production with 1–2 reliable sources (rest are just ratings) and no critical response. Wasn't there a general consensus on this project that season articles need to pass WP:GNG and WP:NFTV to warrant a season article? — YoungForever(talk) 13:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I brought this up a while ago on the MOS:TV talkpage when I found six season articles that all passed the AFC process with only a cast list, episode summaries, and ratings. I'd say that The Rookie article you linked definitely don't pass WP:NTV. I'd even go as far to say that 1-3 don't pass it either. Although they do contain more than just a few sentences, it's just a duplication of information that already exists in the parent article which isn't large enough in it's current state to meet the requirements of MOS:TVSPLIT and could easily continue to exist in the parent article only. TheDoctorWho (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is the the same IP address that been creating a bunch of season articles, but has recently IP hopped to 82.46.25.83. — YoungForever(talk) 16:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I left a message on the AFC talk page. TheDoctorWho (talk) 16:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'd assume to the average AFC reviewer the amount of sources makes the seasons look notable, but the television ratings themselves should vary rarely be included in determining that unless they're independently notable (i.e. they set a viewing figure record, etc.) TheDoctorWho (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, television ratings with just ratings on the episode table and ratings table are not enough to pass notability. — YoungForever(talk) 17:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- In this case the mover was not an actual AfC reviewer but the point is still valid. I personally would not have accepted but I can see how someone would think the amount of sources built up to notability. Generally if I see a spin out I decline unless they have tried to get a consensus on the article talk page, and I know others do similar but not all. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Draft:All American (TV series) season 2 and Draft:All American (TV series) season 3 are attempting to get accepted for AFC when both clearly do not meet WP:GNG and WP:NFTV at all. — YoungForever(talk) 19:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I declined both of those drafts per above. kpgamingz (rant me) 00:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Both got resubmitted again without any improvements and declined by another reviewer. — YoungForever(talk) 07:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- I declined both of those drafts per above. kpgamingz (rant me) 00:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is the the same IP address that been creating a bunch of season articles, but has recently IP hopped to 82.46.25.83. — YoungForever(talk) 16:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I recalled this active discussion (having seen it on my watchlist) when I just came across List of The Rookie episodes and its season articles, then realized the discussion started concerning Rookie. I would like to merge and redirect all six season articles, if there are no objections. -- Alex_21 TALK 02:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have no objections with that. — YoungForever(talk) 14:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Forgot to reply to this when it was first posted. I also have no objections with them being merged. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Done -- Alex_21 TALK 04:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- They may get recreated again by 82.46.25.83 or IAmJustPete. They have a history of repeatedly resubmitting television season drafts to AFC with zero improvements. — YoungForever(talk) 15:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Alex 21: Please see Chicago Med season 10 and Chicago P.D. season 12. They both got recreated with only 2 sentences Production section. This is what is what I mean when I say season articles fail WP:GNG and WP:TVSERIES.— YoungForever(talk) 14:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Both 2 sentences production sections are about the previous season, so nothing for the actual articles season. Indagate (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- IP address is edit warring at this point. — YoungForever(talk) 15:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I also notice empty section headings for these upcoming seasons at their respective LoE pages that violate MOS:TVUPCOMING and WP:SELFREDIRECT. I'm assuming (but haven't verified) that it's the same IP. I've removed them for now. I suppose we could always move onto WP:ANEW if it becomes a problem. Perhaps WP:ANI since it seems to be more of a long-term NOTHERE disruptive editor rather than a clear cut 3RR viiolation. TheDoctorWhoPublic (talk) 16:19, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- IP address is edit warring at this point. — YoungForever(talk) 15:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Both 2 sentences production sections are about the previous season, so nothing for the actual articles season. Indagate (talk) 15:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Alex 21: Please see Chicago Med season 10 and Chicago P.D. season 12. They both got recreated with only 2 sentences Production section. This is what is what I mean when I say season articles fail WP:GNG and WP:TVSERIES.— YoungForever(talk) 14:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- They may get recreated again by 82.46.25.83 or IAmJustPete. They have a history of repeatedly resubmitting television season drafts to AFC with zero improvements. — YoungForever(talk) 15:36, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Update: 82.46.25.83 asked IAmJustPete (who also have a history of creating season articles that clearly fail WP:GNG and WP:NFTV) as shown here to create season articles. And then went on to attempt to get Draft:All American (TV series) season 4, Draft:All American (TV series) season 5, and Draft:All American (TV series) season 6 accepted for AFC (still do not meet the requirements of WP:GNG and WP:NFTV.) — YoungForever(talk) 18:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't even know what to say at this point. I declined one of the submission and marked the other for review. Both drafts are all missing a production section. I'm sure the IP user and Pete are doing this in good faith but they really need to read the guidelines from MOS:TV before resubmitting those season article drafts. kpgamingz (rant me) 19:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- They may just choose to ignore MOS:TV guidelines. — YoungForever(talk) 19:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- IP users, I mostly understand. They're not fully part of the Wiki community so knowledge of notability and MOS isn't 100% a concern for them. As for Pete, it's really whether or not if they'll eventually follow the guidelines and, hopefully, become a big helper for WP:TV, or continue in this path and keep getting declined. @IAmJustPete: If you would like to get the drafts accepted, please listen to the feedbacks that me and the many users here given you here and in the draft submission comments. kpgamingz (rant me) 21:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just declined the season 4 page for the series which was also submitted through AFC. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- They may get resubmitted again without fixing the problems in an attempt to get another reviewer to accept AFC. I seen this happened before. Not a season article, but an article about an actress: Draft:Raegan Revord. — YoungForever(talk) 03:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did make a note of NTV and what we generally expect to see at a season article in my decline comments. Hopefully any future reviewers, would note the previous reason. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The IP address removed your comments, but was reverted. The IP address have been resubmitting multiple Drafts without any improvements. They are trying to remove any indication of having them declined before. Little that they know, when editors' View history can see them. — YoungForever(talk) 08:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not a season article, but Draft:List of All American characters also fails WP:GNG was just resubmitted few days ago without any improvements from last time it was declined. — YoungForever(talk) 23:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Update: Draft:All American (TV series) season 5 trying to get resubmitted again without any improvements. — YoungForever(talk) 22:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Another update: Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 1, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 2, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 3, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 4 have all been resubmitted to WP:AFC when they all failed WP:GNG and WP:NFTV. Also, 3 out of 4 them have no Production nor Critical response info at all. Draft:List of All American: Homecoming episodes is recently submitted to WP:AFC which also fails WP:GNG, WP:NFTV, MOS:TVSPLIT, Wikipedia:Article splitting (television), WP:SPLIT, WP:SUMMARY, WP:SPINOUT, WP:LENGTH. — YoungForever(talk) 21:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Kp2016rockin: and @TheDoctorWho: All the Draft season articles of The Equalizer (2021 TV series) have now passed AFC without any improvements since the last submit of AFC. They cannot be Draftify because they were Dratified in the past before already. — YoungForever(talk) 16:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, your earlier message must have slipped my watchlist or I would have declined them myself last night and saved myself a bit of time. Reading your message the first time, I originally thought that you had a technical error in moving the pages. I was able to move them using the regular move feature. After re-reading it, you may have been referencing WP:DONTDRAFTIFY/WP:DRAFTOBJECT? If so, I may have accidentally violated that and won't object if someone reverts the move based on that. Either way they're back in the draft space for the moment. If the draft moves are reverted, I suppose are next option is WP:AFD. TheDoctorWhoPublic (talk) 16:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just declined the All American article since it was still under review. TheDoctorWhoPublic (talk) 16:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The IP address and IAmJustPete are still WP:NOTGETTINGIT. They are deliberately ignoring guidelines at this point, repeatedly resubmitting to AFC without any improvements. Draft:List of All American: Homecoming episodes is trying to pass AFC. — YoungForever(talk) 17:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just declined that submission on the grounds of MOS:TVSPLIT. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is also Draft:List of All American characters which is mostly plot points that belong on episode summaries, not character descriptions. No improvements since the last time it was submitted. — YoungForever(talk) 23:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- At this point, just keep declining the submissions and get admin help with the AfCs. kpgamingz (rant me) 18:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Kp2016rockin: Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 1, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 2, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 3, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 4 all got resubmitted again without any improvements since the last time it was resubmitted. — YoungForever(talk) 00:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Draft:CSI: Vegas season 1 and Draft:CSI: Vegas season 2 had also been resubmitted. I declined them all. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- They will probably get resubmitted in a few weeks with zero improvements again. May want to use this {{AfC submission/rejected}} with the STOP icon. — YoungForever(talk) 04:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Rejecting the draft won't solve the problem because there's still room for improvements in the drafts. The problem is the submitters not following the guidelines, taking the advice and improving the draft for submission. kpgamingz (rant me) 18:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Kp2016rockin: I stumbled upon this Draft:S.W.A.T. (2017 TV series) season 8. Filming haven't even started, Episode table is basically empty, and no premiere date, and etc. Most definitely not enough to pass AFC. — YoungForever(talk) 02:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Declined; I've added it to my watchlist. (On a side note, have you considered applying for WP:NPR rights?) TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I thought about it, but I don't think I meet all the criteria for it. — YoungForever(talk) 05:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think you do suit the requirements. You never know. kpgamingz (rant me) 17:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I thought about it, but I don't think I meet all the criteria for it. — YoungForever(talk) 05:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Declined; I've added it to my watchlist. (On a side note, have you considered applying for WP:NPR rights?) TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Kp2016rockin: I stumbled upon this Draft:S.W.A.T. (2017 TV series) season 8. Filming haven't even started, Episode table is basically empty, and no premiere date, and etc. Most definitely not enough to pass AFC. — YoungForever(talk) 02:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Rejecting the draft won't solve the problem because there's still room for improvements in the drafts. The problem is the submitters not following the guidelines, taking the advice and improving the draft for submission. kpgamingz (rant me) 18:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- They will probably get resubmitted in a few weeks with zero improvements again. May want to use this {{AfC submission/rejected}} with the STOP icon. — YoungForever(talk) 04:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Draft:CSI: Vegas season 1 and Draft:CSI: Vegas season 2 had also been resubmitted. I declined them all. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Kp2016rockin: Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 1, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 2, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 3, Draft:The Equalizer (2021 TV series) season 4 all got resubmitted again without any improvements since the last time it was resubmitted. — YoungForever(talk) 00:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- At this point, just keep declining the submissions and get admin help with the AfCs. kpgamingz (rant me) 18:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is also Draft:List of All American characters which is mostly plot points that belong on episode summaries, not character descriptions. No improvements since the last time it was submitted. — YoungForever(talk) 23:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just declined that submission on the grounds of MOS:TVSPLIT. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The IP address and IAmJustPete are still WP:NOTGETTINGIT. They are deliberately ignoring guidelines at this point, repeatedly resubmitting to AFC without any improvements. Draft:List of All American: Homecoming episodes is trying to pass AFC. — YoungForever(talk) 17:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Kp2016rockin: and @TheDoctorWho: All the Draft season articles of The Equalizer (2021 TV series) have now passed AFC without any improvements since the last submit of AFC. They cannot be Draftify because they were Dratified in the past before already. — YoungForever(talk) 16:00, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- I did make a note of NTV and what we generally expect to see at a season article in my decline comments. Hopefully any future reviewers, would note the previous reason. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- IP users, I mostly understand. They're not fully part of the Wiki community so knowledge of notability and MOS isn't 100% a concern for them. As for Pete, it's really whether or not if they'll eventually follow the guidelines and, hopefully, become a big helper for WP:TV, or continue in this path and keep getting declined. @IAmJustPete: If you would like to get the drafts accepted, please listen to the feedbacks that me and the many users here given you here and in the draft submission comments. kpgamingz (rant me) 21:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- They may just choose to ignore MOS:TV guidelines. — YoungForever(talk) 19:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
@TheDoctorWho: and @Kp2016rockin: Draft:All American (TV series) season 2 got resubmitted to AFC with zero improvements again. — YoungForever(talk) 19:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Declined yet again. It's like they don't take the critics and fix the draft, instead just submitting and hoping someone will glace at it and accept it as is. kpgamingz (rant me) 19:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: and @Kp2016rockin: Draft:Fire Country season 1 is a just duplication of info from the parent article. Draft:List of CSI: Vegas episodes is laughable, it was just declined 2 days ago and still not enough to warrant the split. At this point, they are deliberately trying to game the AFC process. They are pretty much disruptive editing as they are repeatedly resubmitting Drafts to AFC without any improvements. — YoungForever(talk) 21:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho:, @Kp2016rockin:, @KylieTastic:, and @ToadetteEdit: Draft:Fire Country season 2 was just resubmitted to AFC again without any improvements. While Draft:Fire Country season 1 is still a just duplication of info from the parent article and Draft:List of CSI: Vegas episodes is still not enough to split. — YoungForever(talk) 22:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @YoungForever: Declined them all. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Stumbled upon this Draft:List of CSI: Vegas episodes. — YoungForever(talk) 14:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have tagged it for speedy deletion as a copyright violation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- It was declined by an admin. I don't think it qualifies speedy deletion because it is a Draft for now. — YoungForever(talk) 20:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I talked to the administrator; it was a little more complicated than I'd thought. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- It was declined by an admin. I don't think it qualifies speedy deletion because it is a Draft for now. — YoungForever(talk) 20:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have tagged it for speedy deletion as a copyright violation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Stumbled upon this Draft:List of CSI: Vegas episodes. — YoungForever(talk) 14:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- courtesy ping ToadetteEdit as they were the AfC reviewer who accepted them. KylieTastic (talk) 17:32, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there. In the first place, it feels that there are all fine. However I should be considering stopping reviews of TV seasons. ToadetteEdit! 17:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- I would be in favor of returning them back to draftspace or nominating tnem to AfD. ToadetteEdit! 17:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not necessarily asking that you stop reviewing them, just that you familiarize yourself with MOS:TV (specifically, MOS:TVSPLIT) and WP:NTV.
- Grey's Anatomy season 17 is a great example of the information that an exceptional season article should contain. Now that is a featured article and I know not all television seasons receive that type of coverage, so on the slightly lower end of good articles there's Magnum P.I. (2018 TV series) season 1. At the absolute bare minimum, articles like Law & Order season 21 and Cobra Kai season 1 (providing a permaalink because I do plan on eventually getting that to GA status) are examples of Start to C-class articles that still manage to prove notability with the information available. TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Per MOS:TVSPLIT,
— YoungForever(talk) 22:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)There should be real world content to accompany any additional split that is not simply a duplication of the main page's content (e.g., reception specifically for that season, or that episode; production information for the season or the episode), or duplication of the season page's content (e.g., an episode article that contains one or two reviews, and used the overall production information about the season that isn't specific to any one episode). This is because notability is not inherited from a parent article, and all articles must stand on their own. So be careful when splitting pages too soon; if the material for the new article is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of the subject, or would simply duplicate the summary that would be left behind, then it may be too soon to move.
- Hi there. In the first place, it feels that there are all fine. However I should be considering stopping reviews of TV seasons. ToadetteEdit! 17:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @YoungForever: Declined them all. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Category:Netflix television dramas has been nominated for deletion
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WikiProject Doctor Who has an RfCBEFORE
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Move review for Liverpool 1 (TV series)
[edit]A move review has been put in place for Liverpool 1 (TV series). Please comment on the move review page, not here JuniperChill (talk) 10:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Film and television backlog
[edit]If anyone is looking for something to do, their are many pages listed in the various categories over at Category:Film and television backlog. Gonnym (talk) 13:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
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MOS discussion
[edit]Hello all
I am not a project member, but have created and edited quite a number of film- and TV-related articles over recent years. I think that some experienced editors' opinions would be useful in this discussion about the MOS for TV leads. IMO it would be useful to have some consistency (where possible and applicable) over the styles for films and TV series, but obviously this needs consensus to be applied to the MOS for TV. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Lists of series characters by year
[edit]We have 305 articles at titles like List of Coronation Street characters (1990) and List of Emmerdale characters (2018). These titles are deceptive, as they are not for lists of all characters on the series in those years, but only contain characters introduced in those years - a fact reflected in the category tree for these articles, Category:Television characters by year of introduction, containing, e.g., Category:Television characters introduced in 1995. I would therefore like to propose at Wikipedia:Requested moves that all of these list be moved to "List of [name of show] characters introduced in [year]" titles. Any thoughts/objections/alternatives?
BD2412 T 22:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think what you've suggested is the right naming and should be brought up to RM. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will file it within the next few days, then, thanks. BD2412 T 04:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I too would support these moves in an RM. -- Alex_21 TALK 07:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Favre1fan93 and Alex 21: I have initiated the RM at Talk:List of Coronation Street characters (1960)#Requested move 15 August 2024. Cheers! BD2412 T 20:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful. Furthermore, should it pass, I would suggest adding these "introduced in" titles as a valid entry under Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#List articles. -- Alex_21 TALK 01:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- As the closer to the RM, given the breadth of support at the RM, this would be an appropriate addition. Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful. Furthermore, should it pass, I would suggest adding these "introduced in" titles as a valid entry under Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#List articles. -- Alex_21 TALK 01:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
30 Rock season 1
[edit]I have nominated 30 Rock season 1 for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status.
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Kristan Cunningham
[edit]Kristan Cunningham does not appear to be notable. I could not find any sources about her, just random blurbs and clickbait. Should she be redirected to Design on a Dime? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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Magical Academy (2023-present)
[edit]A spinoff of Wits Academy and Every Witch Way. The season finale ended on December 28th, 2023 at 8/7c. The series aired with 10 episodes on August 24th, 2023 on YouTube and Nickelodeon. The series is renewed for a second season on May 2025 at 8/7c. 73.127.111.87 (talk) 23:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Series director and writer credits
[edit]Concerning the page Rick and Morty: The Anime, if a source credits someone (Takashi Sano) as the "series director", is that enough of a source to state that they are the director of all episodes? An editor then said it was "safe to assume he wrote all the episodes as well" based on the credits of a singular episode, and then removed all credits; I have since added another source stating that Sano directed and wrote the series - is this enough to add them to the credits of all episodes? -- Alex_21 TALK 08:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- If there is ambiguity why not wait for the episodes to be released? Gonnym (talk) 08:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's a discussion on my talk page where I agreed to do just that, but my question is: is there actually any ambiguity here, if the source clearly states that the series "is written and directed by Sano"? -- Alex_21 TALK 08:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Quite often we get sources saying someone is writing a series which actually means they are one of the writers on the series, so I think it is fair to be cautious. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think it's also important to note that anime productions work differently from most western productions. Just because they're credited as series director or series writer, does not necessarily mean they directed or wrote all the individual episodes; you can easily find many examples of this on anime television series across Wikipedia. I made the original edit based off, maybe perhaps a misguided assumption, that the credits in the opening theme sequence would not change, because most of the time they don't. Takashi Sano was credited for direction/storyboard in the ending theme credits which are primarily used to credit the individual episode itself, but there was no writers section there that I could find. Take that as you will. I think we should just wait on a per-episode aired basis while keeping this information in mind if there is reasonable doubt to justify it.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 09:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would wait for the episodes to be released as it did not explicitly say "directed all the episodes". — YoungForever(talk) 00:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wholeheartedly agree with this. When there is any doubt with available sourced information, wait for the clear and obvious follow-up sources to back it up.--GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 01:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Quite often we get sources saying someone is writing a series which actually means they are one of the writers on the series, so I think it is fair to be cautious. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's a discussion on my talk page where I agreed to do just that, but my question is: is there actually any ambiguity here, if the source clearly states that the series "is written and directed by Sano"? -- Alex_21 TALK 08:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show)
[edit]Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (American game show) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Proposed merging of Template:Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Template:Angel (1999 TV series)
[edit]Proposed merging of Template:Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Template:Angel (1999 TV series) at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 August 25#Template:Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Mika1h (talk) 11:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
The New Pope episode names
[edit]Are the episodes titles really titled "First Episode", "Second Episode", etc, or are they just numbered episodes? Gonnym (talk) 07:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- TFC, Sky and SBS Australia list them as such, whereas HBO, Sky (again?) and Canal+ lists then as "Episode 1", etc. -- Alex_21 TALK 07:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Episode article notability
[edit]Last year I moved Strange New Worlds (Star Trek: Strange New Worlds) to the draftspace because it was basically just a plot summary. It has just been moved back to the mainspace through AfC (ping reviewer @Utopes) but in my opinion it has not been improved enough per our guidelines at WP:NTVEP. I know this has been a controversial topic in the past, but considering this page has been having similar discussions about premature season articles being created through AfC I thought it would be worth asking for opinions here before doing anything about this. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that it needs to be moved back. A plot and a few reviews do not an article make. -- Alex_21 TALK 09:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @DimensionalFusion as well, they submitted the draft for creation and have now done the same for the similarly unready Draft:Children of the Comet. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Adamstom.97 This was just declined DimensionalFusion (talk) 12:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @DimensionalFusion as well, they submitted the draft for creation and have now done the same for the similarly unready Draft:Children of the Comet. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- The point of AfC is that a reviewer finds it notable. If they had not found it notable it would have been rejected and required further improvement DimensionalFusion (talk) 11:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- In theory, but as can be seen in the #Season article notability section above this is not always the case. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Strange New Worlds" should definitely be moved back. Doesn't pass WP:NTVEP. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t see why it should. It was created, pushed back to draftspace, improved and, to ensure it wouldn’t be deleted again, passed through AfC instead of just being published. If you don’t think the article is good enough as is, WP:IMPROVEIT. DimensionalFusion (talk) 22:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- If it meets GNG (a guideline), then NTVEP (an essay) doesn't matter. A merger might be relevant regardless of notability, but I personally think it's better to discuss episode-specific reviews in episode-specific articles instead of trying to synthesize them into a season-level review (which could run into OR issues). RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Strange New Worlds" should definitely be moved back. Doesn't pass WP:NTVEP. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- In theory, but as can be seen in the #Season article notability section above this is not always the case. - adamstom97 (talk) 11:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC)