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Split of Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You needed

The consensus so far has unanimously agreed to split the I Will Always Love You#Whitney Houston version. Nonetheless, I figured it's a lot of work, so help is needed. Thanks! George Ho (talk) 17:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I performed the split. Someone else might have to clean up stuff. Heartfox (talk) 21:04, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Water Under the Bridge#Requested move 1 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Water Under the Bridge#Requested move 1 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Enter Sandman

Enter Sandman has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. λ NegativeMP1 03:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Credits and personnel" or "Personnel"?

Which one is the most appropriate? Besides, should we include songwriting credits? I've seen that some articles do include them in this section, while others don't. Additionally, do we type the artists' real or stage names? Jvaspad (talk) 19:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Credits and personnel" seems redundant to me; I would pick one or the other, but never use both.

Songwriting credits make more sense in the track listing section to me, especially when organized by {{track listing}}, so I wouldn't bother repeating them in both sections.

I would think which name to use would be decided by what's used in the liner notes, and if for some reason that isn't enough default to whichever is the common name. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Round Here#Requested move 16 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Round Here#Requested move 16 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Writers vs performers

Songs are a pain to credit because of the widespread erroneous assumption that a performer must be the sole creator of the song. This doesn't happen much in categories other than music; almost nobody thinks an article should begin with "Hamlet is a play by Kenneth Branagh" or "Football (soccer) is a sport invented by Lionel Messi" or "Harry Potter is a book by Daniel Radcliffe" – but in articles about songs this exact type of obvious mistake happens on a regular basis, maybe even most of the time.

I'm sure my own preference for fixing this would be quite unpopular – to credit every song first to its writers without exception (for example no performer in the short description), and to list the well-known performers after that – but it does have the advantages of not being insane, and of being how things are normally done in all other relevant categories.

It's a bit different for an article about a particular recording, but not SO different; being careful to type "Elvis Presley recording", and to not type "Elvis Presley song" unless he really wrote it, isn't very difficult.

But assuming my ideas aren't the best way, I think it's still clear that the current way obscures reality quite a bit, and needs review. TooManyFingers (talk) 04:22, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm also sure your preference will be quite unpopular. For one, most popular music has been consistently credited primarily to recording artists rather than songwriters, and that crediting comes from reliable sources which we base our articles on. Since all those reliable sources follow that convention, why shouldn't we? And it's not like any given song article excludes the writers; they appear in the infobox and the lead quite consistently. And your method would come with the implication that recording a song isn't itself an act of creation, which just makes no sense. I'm sure there are numerous exceptions where it does make more sense to lead with the songwriters, but it would never work as a blanket rule. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]