Talk:Dinkytown
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[edit]Hmm, this should probably be something like Minneapolis, Minnesota/Dinkytown
From what I can tell, Dinkytown is quite famous (likely the most recognizable neighborhood in Minneapolis), but I wish I had some reasons why. Bob Dylan apparently visited here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mulad (talk • contribs) 15:08, May 28, 2003
I'm a student at the University, and from what I've heard, the name comes from train rolling stock that was used in the area long ago. Mtnerd 21:38, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Moved Dinkytown, Minneapolis, Minnesota to Dinkytown
[edit]As far as I know, the neighborhood in Minneapolis is the only "Dinkytown" in existence. If someone actually knows of another one (and one that has a Wikipedia article), this can be moved to Dinkytown, Minneapolis, but Dinkytown, Minneapolis, Minnesota is WAY too redundant. Eco84 | Talk 19:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I think this was called after the fact it was named:
"Similarly, the tenders at the nearby railyard were called Dinkys"
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.31.168 (talk • contribs) 02:16, May 12, 2008
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The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline (talk) 15:34, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Dinkytown → Dinkytown, Minneapolis – Literally every other neighborhood of Minneapolis follows this standard format; see Neighborhoods of Minneapolis. There is no reason for this one neighborhood to be an exception. MelanieN (talk) 22:10, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. There's also at least Lyn-Lake that doesn't add "Minneapolis". Also, as noted above, Dinkytown is the most well-known neighborhood of Minneapolis. This is also how reliable sources refer to the neighborhood. A Google Books search for "Dinkytown" has over 5,500 results. A search for "Dinkytown, Minneapolis" only has 108 results, many of which are not actually in that form. Overall, plain "Dinkytown" seems better. Dohn joe (talk) 20:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Support. The applicable naming convention at WP:USPLACE generally requires disambiguation except for a select group of major cities. It's a dumb naming convention, but I don't see any special circumstances here why it would not be followed. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- USPLACE does not specifically address neighborhoods. This is more a case of universal Wikipedia usage - that neighborhoods of a city are expressed as [[Neighborhood, City]] or less commonly [[Neighborhood (City)]]. There are more than 80 neighborhoods in Milwaukee listed as [[Neighborhood, Milwaukee]]. The same format (comma disambiguation) is followed for most American cities; see List of communities and neighborhoods of San Diego, List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles, Neighborhoods in Chicago, etc. This convention was discussed at length and reaffirmed at Talk:Alta Vista, San Diego#Requested move. As a result of that discussion, neighborhood names in San Diego were changed from [[Neighborhood, San Diego, California]] to [[Neighborhood, San Diego]] - because of San Diego being a city like Minneapolis that does not need the state name per USPLACE - but the suggestion by some to list them as [[Neighborhood]] was rejected. --MelanieN (talk) 14:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't suggest that WP:USPLACE dealt with neighbourhoods. I was suggesting that since WP:USPLACE is hard core when it comes to requiring disambiguation for settlements, I didn't see any reason why there would be any appetite for making special exceptions when it came to random neighbourhoods. What you have said above simply supports my estimation of current thinking on disambiguation for U.S. places, neighbourhoods or otherwise - always disambiguate, whether it is needed or not, unless the subject falls within a small class of exceptions. I agree you with completely on how it should be disambiguated, although I am not sure anyone has suggested that the article should be at Dinkytown, Minnesota (but I may have missed that debate).--Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- USPLACE does not specifically address neighborhoods. This is more a case of universal Wikipedia usage - that neighborhoods of a city are expressed as [[Neighborhood, City]] or less commonly [[Neighborhood (City)]]. There are more than 80 neighborhoods in Milwaukee listed as [[Neighborhood, Milwaukee]]. The same format (comma disambiguation) is followed for most American cities; see List of communities and neighborhoods of San Diego, List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles, Neighborhoods in Chicago, etc. This convention was discussed at length and reaffirmed at Talk:Alta Vista, San Diego#Requested move. As a result of that discussion, neighborhood names in San Diego were changed from [[Neighborhood, San Diego, California]] to [[Neighborhood, San Diego]] - because of San Diego being a city like Minneapolis that does not need the state name per USPLACE - but the suggestion by some to list them as [[Neighborhood]] was rejected. --MelanieN (talk) 14:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. A title should be the actual name of the subject, provided that doesn't clash with another article title, per WP:PRECISION. Consistency would apply only if you think of the Minneapolis neighborhoods as all equivalent. Dinkytown is in its own category with a notable music scene. (More precisely, it's "the hipest and most happening neighborhood west of New York's Greenwich Village."[1]) The rationale given in the nom is quite editor oriented. Readers aren't here to compare the names of the neighborhoods. Kauffner (talk) 01:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. Is there some other Dinkytown which this needs to be disambiguated from? aprock (talk) 21:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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