Talk:Kylie Minogue

July 2024 RfC

I would like to change the lead section. This is the process recommended by DRN to avoid the constant stonewalling on this article. I trimmed it down but still kept the same facts. It's now 40~ ish words less than the one being reverted to and is easier to read in my opinion. PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Kylie Ann Minogue AO OBE (/mɪˈnoʊɡ/; born 28 May 1968), is an Australian singer and actress. Known as the "Princess of Pop", Minogue has been noted for her reinventions in music and fashion. Her accolades include two Grammy Awards, four Brit Awards and eighteen ARIA Music Awards. She is the highest-selling female recording artist from Australia, with sales of over 80 million records worldwide. Born and raised in Melbourne, Minogue started as an actress in the Australian soap opera Neighbours (1986–1988). She began her music career in the late 1980s, releasing four albums under PWL. This gave her several hits in Australia and the UK, including "The Loco-Motion", "I Should Be So Lucky", "Especially for You", "Hand on Your Heart" and "Better the Devil You Know". Taking more creative control over her music, she signed with Deconstruction Records in 1993 and released the albums Kylie Minogue (1994) and Impossible Princess (1997) before leaving the label. After joining Parlophone in 1999, Minogue released Light Years (2000), including the Australian number ones "Spinning Around" and "On a Night Like This". Her next album, Fever (2001), was her international breakthrough becoming her best selling album to date. The lead single, "Can't Get You Out of My Head", topped the charts in over 40 countries and sold over five million copies. Subsequent singles, "In Your Eyes" and "Love at First Sight", peaked inside the top three in the UK. In the following years, she continued experimenting on her subsequent albums, which spawned hits such as "Slow", "I Believe in You", "2 Hearts" and "All the Lovers". She is the only female artist to have a UK number-one album and t op ten hitsin five consecutive decades, with Disco (2020) and the song "Padam Padam" from Tension (2023) respectively. Outside of music, Minogue made her film debut in The Delinquents (1989), and appeared in Street Fighter (1994), Moulin Rouge! (2001), Holy Motors (2012) and San Andreas (2015). In reality television, she appeared as a judge on both The Voice UK and The Voice Australia, both in 2014. Her other ventures include product endorsements, books, perfumes, and a wine brand. Additional achievements include being an ARIA Hall of Fame inductee, Officer of the Order of Australia (AO), Officer of the Order of the British Empire, Chevalier (knight) of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres and an honorary Doctor of Health Science (D.H.Sc.) for her work in cancer awareness. Time magazine has honoured her on its annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2024.

Current lead section

Kylie Ann Minogue AO OBE (/mɪˈnoʊɡ/; born 28 May 1968) is an Australian singer and actress. She is the highest-selling female recording artist from Australia, having sold over 80 million records worldwide. Referred to as the "Princess of Pop", she has been recognised for reinventing herself in music and fashion as a style icon. Her accolades include two Grammy Awards, four Brit Awards and eighteen ARIA Music Awards. In 2024, Time named her one of the most influential people in the world. Born and raised in Melbourne, Minogue first achieved recognition starring as Charlene Robinson in the Australian soap opera Neighbours (1986–1988). She began her music career in the late 1980s, releasing four bubblegum and dance-pop-influenced studio albums under PWL. By the early 1990s, Minogue had amassed several top ten singles in Australia and the UK, including "The Loco-Motion", "I Should Be So Lucky", "Especially for You", "Hand on Your Heart" and "Better the Devil You Know". Taking more creative control over her music, she signed with Deconstruction Records in 1993 and released the albums Kylie Minogue (1994) and Impossible Princess (1997). By joining Parlophone in 1999, Minogue returned to mainstream dance-oriented music with Light Years (2000), including the number-one hits "Spinning Around" and "On a Night Like This". The follow-up, Fever (2001), was an international breakthrough for Minogue, becoming her best-selling album to date. Its lead single, "Can't Get You Out of My Head" became one of the most successful singles of the 2000s, selling over five million units. Follow up singles, "In Your Eyes" and "Love at First Sight" became hits as well. She continued reinventing her image and experimenting with a range of genres on her subsequent albums, which spawned successful singles such as "Slow", "I Believe in You", "2 Hearts" and "All the Lovers". In 2017, she partnered with BMG Rights Management, with "Dancing" (2018) as their first release. In the following years, Minogue became the only female artist to have a number-one album and a top ten single, from the 1980s to the 2020s in the UK charts, with Disco (2020) and "Padam Padam" (2023) respectively. In film, Minogue made her debut in The Delinquents (1989), and appeared in Street Fighter (1994), Moulin Rouge! (2001), Holy Motors (2012) and San Andreas (2015). In reality television, she appeared as a judge on The Voice UK and The Voice Australia, both in 2014. Her other ventures include product endorsements, books, perfumes, charitable work and a wine brand. Minogue's achievements include being an ARIA Hall of Fame inductee, Officer of the Order of Australia (AO), Officer of the Order of the British Empire, Chevalier (knight) of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres and an honorary Doctor of Health Science (D.H.Sc.).

PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

This link right here[1] shows the "difference between revisions". @PHShanghai: removed the wikilink of the character of Minogue's breakthrough acting role - Charlene Robinson in the lead section. Removed the genre of Minogue's first four albums. Labeled "Spinning Around" as an Australian number-one single, when it was also number-one in the UK singles chart. Removed this description "She continued reinventing her image and experimenting with a range of genres". Removed Minogue's partnership with BMG Rights Management which released her albums and singles since 2018. Its not an improvement at all. As seen in this talkpage and the article history, this is not the first or third or fifth time @PHShanghai: changed the lead section in a "drastic" way, to no improvement. In the past, they have also introduced false information which were already brought up in this talkpage. Hotwiki (talk) 16:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Can you please summarize everything you're saying in less sentences? PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 00:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

To make it brief, your changes aren't an improvement to the lead section. Hotwiki (talk) 05:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

What is the question in this RfC? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@LaundryPizza03:, the RFC petitioner is requesting for comments, to change the lead section. Hotwiki (talk) 17:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@PHShanghai: Can I see the older version thi is being compared to? Preferably, compare it side-by-side in the header. And the question needs to be brief and neutral. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@LaundryPizza03: [2] Hotwiki (talk) 18:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2024

Add Oxford commas. 64.189.18.33 (talk) 18:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: See MOS:Oxford. Unless you're pointing out an inconsistency, this will not be done. ⸺(Random)staplers 19:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)