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    • Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed.
    Definition of edit warring
    Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
    Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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    User:2804:14D:BAC1:4CDC:2427:ABC5:AADE:5D66 reported by User:L3X1 (Result: No violation)

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    Page: The Hellenic Initiative (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 2804:14D:BAC1:4CDC:2427:ABC5:AADE:5D66 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 00:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "Edited Summary"
    2. 19:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC) "Extended updates"
    3. 00:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC) "Updates and further details"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    This IP (check history) has added what I believe to be improper material to the article 3 times. As such I don't want to revert them nd get engaged in an edit war. Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 01:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. I took care of reverting the latest edit for you. You might want to consider requesting page protection as a better long-term option if they keep up. Daniel Case (talk) 01:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:LuciferMorningstar2 reported by User:Thewikizoomer (Result: Already blocked indef)

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    Page: Fur Affinity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: LuciferMorningstar2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 06:12, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 06:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 06:09, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    4. 06:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 06:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Fur Affinity."
    2. 06:19, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "/* August 2024 */ Reply"

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Looks like these were the only edits they made too. Raises questions whether if this is their first time. Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:21, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Three-revert-rule violation observed. Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:26, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This user is already blocked as a VOA. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 08:28, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Already blocked indefinitely per above. Daniel Case (talk) 01:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:DrKay reported by User:John (Result: No violation)

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    Page: Elizabeth II (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: DrKay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [1]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [2]
    2. [3]
    3. [4]
    4. [5]

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [6] This shows DrKay warning the user they are edit-warring with (3 reverts) about the 3RR rule, when they have made 4 reverts themselves, albeit in just over 24 hours. The fact they posted a warning shows they are aware of the prohibition on edit-warring. DrKay is an administrator and should really know better than this. I find the spectacle of an admin threatening another user with a templated warning in an edit-war which they themselves are involved in most unedifying.

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: I haven't reverted; I noticed them going back and forth as I made a separate edit, which thankfully wasn't reverted. I've now added a section in talk although, not being a party to the dispute, I am not required to.

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [7]

    Comments:
    I encountered DrKay a few years ago at this article and perceived an OWN issue with them. I have steered clear since then. I am highly unimpressed with them edit-warring in this way. John (talk) 17:03, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    There's no breach of the bright-line rule, or any "threatening [of] another user". The removal of unsourced, misleading information from the lead of an article that does not otherwise contain that information is hardly unusual enough to be called a "spectacle". DrKay (talk) 18:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC) I've had a rummage around for this supposed clash between John and me but can only find this, and subsequent[8][9], which hardly seems to qualify. John argues there with a number of editors and my comments are minimal. So, I will need to be pointed at this alleged encounter explicitly. DrKay (talk) 18:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • No violation. As the OP says, the reverts are over more than a 24h period, but frankly even they weren't, this is a featured article and User:Yekshemesh is trying to add unsourced original research to the lead paragraph so I'm unsurprised it is being reverted. That's just disruption and even though it isn't technically included in WP:3RRNO I would give some definite leeway to someone who is removing it. I'm surprised the OP doesn't see that problem. Black Kite (talk) 18:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Edit: indeed I've just had to remove another bit of complete OR by the same editor from a different featured article, so if there are any sanctions to be handed out here, I suspect they will definitely heading in that direction. Black Kite (talk) 18:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for looking. Gosh, I had no idea repeated reversions while handing out edit-warring warnings was allowable behaviour on a non-BLP featured article. As you say, it certainly isn't written down anywhere. I guess it's an unwritten rule? Does it only apply for admins, or are all users allowed to edit-war on FAs? John (talk) 19:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    3RR is a technical bright line, and that metric has to exist, but equally I don't think you'll find any admin that will block any user (regardless of whether they're an admin or not) for removing disruptive material from an article (especially a fairly high traffic featured article) unless there is some other problematic issue, which there is not here. Black Kite (talk) 19:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I see your logic. Blocks are not the only tool available though; there are warnings and protections. I think that for this level of lack of awareness (four reverts, warning the other editor, no talk page participation) a warning would be in order. My concern is that this outcome (Result: No violation) empowers the edit-warrior to continue in this substandard way in the future, when there are other, better ways to solve editing problems. Or else, and I wouldn't favour this, form a consensus that FAs have special rules attached to them. Otherwise, this leaves somewhat of a bad taste in my mouth. John (talk) 19:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Wtf? "the reverts are over more than a 24h period, but frankly even they weren't..." I've never seen that overtly expressed before even if one suspected it. FA or no FA, disruptive (perceived) or not disruptive, high traffic or not "My edits were right, so it wasn't edit warring" is not a valid defense is fundamental to 3RR. That's a bad rationale. DeCausa (talk) 19:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I replied on my talk page. Black Kite (talk) 20:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Seanmoral135 reported by User:Amaury (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

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    Page: Sabrina Carpenter (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Seanmoral135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 06:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 18:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 17:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    4. 16:48, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    5. 10:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 17:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Sabrina Carpenter."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Also edit warring on LeAnn Rimes and Tape Inc. and likely other pages. No communication, with plenty of warnings and opportunities to discuss. Amaury • 06:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Seanmoral135 reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

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    Page: LeAnn Rimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Seanmoral135 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 06:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 09:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 21:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""
    4. 07:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 00:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "/* LeAnn Rimes lead photo */ Reply"
    2. 00:56, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "/* LeAnn Rimes lead photo */ point to existing discussion"
    3. 14:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on LeAnn Rimes."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:LeAnn_Rimes#Lead_image

    Comments: Lots of messages on user talk page and article talk page. Ignores them all. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:87.210.159.212 reported by User:Untamed1910 (Result: Partially blocked 2 weeks)

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    Page: Template:Mario Kart (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 87.210.159.212 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 22:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241744071 by Untamed1910 (talk) nintendo counts it as main and they do with all there mobile games"
    2. 22:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241740590 by SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) oh yes i will tour is a main game confirmed by nintendo"
    3. 21:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241736612 by SleepDeprivedGinger (talk)"
    4. 20:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1241729515 by SleepDeprivedGinger (talk)"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 22:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Template:Mario Kart."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. 22:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC) "/* Mario Kart Tour */ new section"

    Comments:

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