Talk:Toasted sandwich
"Origins" section has major NPOV issue
[edit]I may delete some of it if there is no objection. Max Elstein 22:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
"Toastie" in Britain
[edit]Paul, that was most non non heinous of you. Ted 22:30, 69 Dec 2005 (UTC)
I am unaware of "toastie" being the "most common" term in Britain for a toasted sandwich. Marked "dubious". Paul Beardsell 21:30, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
If you look in a Cambridge dictionary for toastie/toasty is says: "especially British... a toasty is a sandwich that has been toasted" -- anon
I don't have a "Cambridge" dictionary. I had a look at dictionary.com, nothing. But remove the tag if you like. Paul Beardsell 20:25, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
A Toasted Sandwich and a toastie/taosty are different things. A toastie has sealed edges and is cut to form two triangle halves. A toasted sandwich is not cut OR sealed and could be made under a grill, or a sandwich press. On the other hand a toastie can only be made in a toastie machine (Breville). - 08 March 2005 - Dick Johnson http://www.triedandtoasted.com
"Toastie" is slang term certainly used amongst some in London, for a what Dick Johnson calls a "toasted sandwich". This is maybe under the influence of Aussie expat visitors and short-term immigrants, because "toastie" is a common slang term in Melbourne, Australia, for a toasted - unsealed - sandwich' made under a grill or sandwich press. [1]
What Dick Johnson appears to be describing as a "toastie" (as opposed to a "toasted sandwich") is a called a "jaffle" in Australia (and South Africa). [2] A baked-bean jaffle is regarded by many in Australia as an iconic national cuisine. [3]--Pixelwash
"Toastie" is certainly the most common (and pretty much the only) term I've heard used, at least here in Scotland. -- Weeble. 2005-03-13
I've only ever heard of it being called a toastie, or sometimes toasted sandwich, both in Berkshire where I grew up, and in Lancaster where I went to University (and ate many toasties...)--NicholasJones 17:30, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I would be inclined to say "toastie." The full title of "toasted sandwich" seems alien to me. "Toasted cheese sandwich" especially is, I think, unarguably American, the preferred title being "cheese toastie." Outside of the context of specific types of toastie, "jam toastie" and "ham toastie" as opposed to "toasted jam sandwich" and "toasted ham sandwich", I cannot say.
What is a "Cambridge" dictionary? Do you mean the Collins?
Matthew Platts 14:37, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Here in the South-East of England I have never heard the word 'toastie' before, except once in a joke around 1975 (where 'myxamatosis' is turgidly punned with 'mixing my toasties'), but never in the 30 years since. I think it must be a regional term. The only term I have ever heard for this is 'toasted sandwich'. Ben Finn 01:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Addition: by an extraordinary coincidence, I did hear the word 'toastie' used today (here in London) for the first time in 30 years, one day after posting the above. (It was incidentally used by someone with a regional accent - not sure where from - so I maintain it is not in common use here in the south-east of England.) Ben Finn 22:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Also South-East England, I've always heard toasted sandwich. Orange Goblin 23:09, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
- I hope that cognoscenti of the world of the toastie / toasted sandwich will not be offended by my emendation, which is intended to convey that "toastie" is frequent in British usage... without any claim as to its being the most common term. - Picapica 23:17, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
In Psycho, Norman Bates offers his guest a toasted cheese sandwich. Alot of AMericans find this strange. Hitchcock was, of course, British, and he wrote it.
Cambridge Dictionary!
[edit]http://dictionary.cambridge.org/ and look up toastie (toasty)
A toastie/toasty is cut and sealed, otherwise it is a toasted sandwich!
Pop-tarts?
[edit]Do pop-tarts really count as a toasted "sandwich"? Rawling 14:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
The page for Toastie contains very little in the way of useful information, and most of it is also here. I've suggested Toastie be merged fully ino this page. Rawling 15:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Claim on Breville website
[edit]Today, from New Zealand to the UK, toasted sandwiches are still affectionately called ‘Brevilles’, so much so that the term has been added to the Australian dictionary.
Is there any grain of truth to this? I know it's bollocks as far as the UK is concerned - what about Australia and NZ? 217.155.20.163 23:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nope, this is not bollocks. Plenty of folk in the UK call a toastie a Breville. 2A02:C7C:D2D0:8600:446:9445:951D:F3B2 (talk) 15:59, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Original Breville "Snack 'n' Sandwich" toaster
[edit]The article says:
In 1974, the Australian company Breville released the "Snack 'n' Sandwich toaster", which sold 400,000 units within a year of release, making it one of Australia's "most successful product launches". This toaster utilised Breville's new "Cut-n-Seal" mechanism, which essentially defined the toastie. A further product, the "Breville scissor action snack 'n' sandwich toaster", was released to the British public, also in the early 70's.
Was the British version actually a different product, as stated here, or was it in fact exactly the same product with a different plug on the end? 217.155.20.163 23:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Why The Confusion?
[edit]Breville invented the toastie machine (Snack 'n' Sandwich toaster, call it what you will) in 1974. Although the concept of making a toasted sandwich was nothing new, what breville had invented was a machine that cut and sealed. It was invented to prevent toasted sandwich spillage.
Toastie = A toasted sandwich that is both cut and sealed.
Toasted Sandwich = A sandwich that has been toasted either under the grill, in a frying pan (Elivs Style) or in a sandwich press.
Pop Tarts = Sweet unhealthy non-sandwich like snack that uses a toaster to cook it.
- Dick Johnson c/o Tried & Toasted
Merge Grilled cheese sandwich into or with this
[edit]Someone has suggested this on the Grilled cheese sandwich page. This would be a grievous mistake. A grilled cheese sandwich is a longstanding icon in American culinary culture, and is known only by that name -- not as a "toastie" or a "toasted cheese sandwich." There are even literary references to the grilled cheese sandwich, notably their regular consumption in a basement playroom by Bumpy, the protagonist's brother-in-law, in Frederick Exley's A Fan's Notes. Jhw57 13:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- ^ Ingram, Lauren. Dail Mail. Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3609719/Cheese-toastie-drive-cafe-opens-Melbourne.html. Retrieved 20 June 2016.
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