Talk:Forest raven
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HANZAB doesn't mention the Relict Raven, so I assume that the elevation to species status has been rescinded. Unfortunately volume 7 has not been published yet, so I can't look it up. The latest Australian field guide I have lists it as a subspecies: Corvus tasmanicus boreus. Any further information would be of interest.
Nice work on the raven articles, by the way. Tannin
I would like to get comments from other users but I do not believe Forest Raven ever has white spots on the wings and tail. Also the illustration of the bird with white spots is NOT Forest Raven but Black Currawong (Strepera fuliginosa).
The distribution section is incomplete as this species also occurs patchily in South Australia.
The sanguine vulture (talk) 02:19, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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Note from Graeme Chapman[edit]
Note to self (from email from Graeme Chapman bit below) - need to chase refs which support the following....cool.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
"Vaurie (1962a) disposed of it by selecting it as a junior homonym of Corvus australis Gmelin, 1788 (p.377) = Monasa atra (Boddaert, 1783) Bucconidae - action of first reviser under ICZN Art. 24."
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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 12:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'll take this one, now I know a bit more about ravens in Australia after all... FunkMonk (talk) 12:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- There's a lot of single sentence paragraphs in this article that I'm not used to seeing elsewhere. Not a problem I guess, but just thought I'd bring it up.
- Perhaps the cladogram could be moved to the right? Again, not a big issue, but now it clashes with the header and image below.
- Perhaps the taxobox image could get a caption for clarification?
- "John Latham had described the south-seas raven" I'd expect quote marks for that name, otherwise it is a bit unclear that it (perhaps) refers to the subject of the article. Also, shouldn't South Seas be capitalised in the name? FunkMonk (talk) 13:25, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- "the specimen resembles what is now known as the Tasmanian raven" Shouldn't the common name used in the title be used throughout?
- "Although the term refers to Tonga" Could be a bit more clear what "the term" is.
- "Gmelin gave the species the name" Why not full name and link?
- "described the forest raven as a distinct subspecies Corvus marianae tasmanicus" But what is Corvus marianae then?
- "as the overlap in size is large and the difference in size small" Isn't either of these redundant?
- Shouldn't Conservation be under relations with humans?
- I often put it under distribution and habitat as one often talks of overall population and population changes so it strikes me as being a natural flow. I think it flows better there than under the relationships with humans....but don't feel hugely strongly about it I guess.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
- "Birds breed later in Tasmania than they do on mainland Australia, though the species has been little-studied." What is meant with the last part of the sentence? Its breeding has been little studied?
- "with loose throat feathers and being found in "the Friendly Isles" Structure seems a bit odd to me, but perhaps it's alright...
- The last paragraph under feeding overlaps quit a bit with parts of Relationship with humans.
- "but restricted to more closed forest on mainland Australia." But is?
- "however appear to be nested" However they?
- As the intro should summarise the article, I'd expect a bit about breeding?
- "The plumage is a glossy black, with a blue or green sheen visible on upper plumage, there is no seasonal variation in plumage." Plumage becomes a bit repetitive (three time sin a sentence), any way to vary it?
Clarification needed, prose needs copyediting.[edit]
- "Birds breed later in Tasmania than mainland Australia, though that species has been little-studied. " Which species?
- "Eggs have been recorded from July to September and nestlings in September and October in New South Wales, and nestlings have been noted from September to December in Victoria" -- run on sentence.
- I'll try to get to these myself later. Sorry I missed this at FA. --Gaff (talk) 04:46, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Photo discussion[edit]
In my opinion, we can do better than the third photo - it is difficult to see the bird in the photo due to glare (or whatever the technical term is) and the bird is also rather small in the photo, with various other things such as a cow within the frame that do not add to the understanding of the article. I would therefore recommend subbing in File:Forest Raven - Tasmania S4E6196 (21764640094).jpg which shows the bird more clearly. For reference the 'third photo' is currently: File:Corvus tasmanicus-04.JPG. Would like to know everyone's thoughts. ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 22:01, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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