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[edit]Removed some obvious ads under the guise of the "trip planner" section 208.190.179.2 14:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know why are most of the platforms in Bucharest metro so narrow? Halibutt 11:40, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Linia M3 este Dristor 2 - Republica, iar Linia 1 este Industriilor - Eroilor
Semnele de la metrou sunt foarte clare, pe harta sunt desenate invers (Exemplu la Gara de Nor la intrare in statie te avertizeaza ca intri in M3(galben) si M4(verde). De asemenea noile trenuri anunta la Piata Victoriei, transfer la linia 3.
The message above says:
Line M3 runs from Dristor 2 - Republica, while Line 1 runs from Industriilor to Eroilor
The signs in the metro are very clear - on the map the lines are reversed (for example, in Gara de Nord, at the station entry, it is shown clearly that you are entering lines M3 and M4, not M1 and M4 as shown on the map. This is the same for M2 (new) trains which announce that at Piata Victoriei you are transferring to Line M3 not M1
- Da, întradevăr aşa este. Bine că sunt corectate toate pe paginile de staţii. Le voi corecta şi pe lista de staţii. Harta nu ştiu cum poate fi corectată... fiind că nu ştiu cine a făcut-o.
- Translation: Yes, that's true. It's good that all the actual metro station articles have been corrected. I will also correct the list of station. I don't know about the map, though, and how it can be corrected, because I have no idea who made it. Ronline 04:27, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
New metro map
[edit]In response to the statements above about M1/M3 being reversed, I've made a new network map. The stations are a bit unclear though, because the map is originally of a very large size. I will try to make it so that the station names show up a bit more clearly. Ronline 05:15, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The new map does not include some stations, such as Mihai Bravu and Timpuri Noi (between Dristor and Piaţa Unirii).bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 14:19, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for telling me! I forgot to put them in. Will do very soon. Ronline 14:20, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Si pe liniile 2 si 3 incearca sa pui conexiunea la Piata Victoriei.
Ar mai fi de zis, desi este adiacent subiectului, ca CFR intentioneaza ca pana in 2008 sa creeze o centura a Bucurestiului pe care sa circule Sageti Albastre, care vor intersecta toate cele 4 (si viitoarea a5-a)magistrale in statiile extreme, conectand astfel sistemul feroviar cu cel subteran. Pentru a face functional sistemul trebuie extinsa magistrala 2 dincolo de IMGB. Sagetile vor circula la un interval de o ora si vor ocoli Buucrestiul intr-un interval de 1 ora si 10 minute. Vor pleca din Gara de Nord si ocolesc Bucurestiul in sens invers acelor de ceasornic, pentru a se intoarce tot in Gara de Nord. Centura feroviara va avea 14 statii, acoperite, semnalizate electronic, cu panouri de informare, iar pretul unei calatorii va fi identic cu cel de RATB/Metrorex.
- Am făcut o hartă nouă cu Piaţa Victoriei... sper că este completă! Despre reţeaua propusă de CFR, ai mai multe informaţii? Ar fi bine dacă am face deja planul pentru această linie, în gri, pe linia de metrou... asta nu se poate numai dacă ştim staţiile. Eu nu am auzit de aşa plan până acum, dar ar fi ceva fantastic pentru Bucureşti. În final o cale ferată stil RER! Ronline 03:37, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) (PS: Ştii cumva care sunt staţiile liniei de metrou uşor din Bucureşti? Ar fi bine să o includem tot pe harta de metrou).
Prices
[edit]Are you sure a 10-trip ticket on the Bucharest metro is worth NZ$3.50? A ten-trip ticket on my school's bus is NZ$10.00. I don't see how those guys can do it - especially at prices which might sound high. Scott Gall 11:04, 2005 Apr 17 (UTC)
A 10-trip card on Bucharest metro costs 60.000 lei=1,67EUR=2,15 USD (april 2005)
A 10 trip card is currently about 3 NZ$. Public transport in Bucharest is (heavily) subsidized. And money in Romania have quite different values (we have a huge price parity index)
Deci Metroul usor (deocamdata sa consideram doar linia 41) are urmatoarele statii:
Piata Presei Libere (nordul orasului);
Agronomie;
Casin;
Bulevardul Ion Mihalache;
Pasaj Grant/Turda;
Bulevardul Ceahlau;
Piata Crangasi (transfer la M3-->Crangasi);
Pod Ciurel;
Orsova;
Bulevardul Uverturii (transfer la M1-->Armata Poporului);
Bulevardul Timisoara;
Drumul Taberei;
Tricodava;
Brasov;
Ghencea (sud-vestul orasului);
Maestre daca te apuci sa desenezi si linia 41 ar mai fi de zis ceva: Piata presei libere se afla pe langa aviatorilor, mai la vest un pic...statia Turda/Pasaj Grant se afla echidistant pe M4 intre Grivita si Basarab; Statiile Orsova si Bulevardul Uverturii sunt in cartierul Militari (M1 la Armata Poporului). SUCCES! AI facut o harta fff buna.!
Mai jos redau continutul unui articol referitor la reteaua metropolitana din Bucuresti; proiectul a fost lansat de Ministru Transporturilor acum o saptamana:
Ministerul Transporturilor vrea sa infiinteze linii de tren metropolitan in Capitala si in alte trei mari orase. Peste doi ani, Bucurestiul ar putea avea, la fel ca orice mare oras european, o linie de tren metropolitan. Aceasta va inconjura Capitala, facand legatura intre zonele industriale si rezidentiale de la periferie si Gara de Nord.
Pentru orice bucurestean, traversarea orasului de la un cap la altul este un adevarat calvar. In perioadele de varf ale zilei, daca vreti sa ajungeti din Prelungirea Ghencea in Pantelimon, de exemplu, veti pierde cu siguranta intre o ora si jumatate si doua ore, in functie de traseul ales si de mijlocul de transport utilizat.
Pe langa timpul irosit, daca aveti ghinionul sa locuiti intr-un colt al Capitalei si sa aveti serviciul in altul, migratia zilnica va poate duce la epuizare nervoasa. Cozi interminabile la fiecare semafor, claxoane, injuraturi, inghesuiala din autobuze si tramvaie – toate acestea trebuie suportate de zeci de mii de bucuresteni.
Doar metroul ar mai putea salva, insa actuala retea nu deserveste decat cateva cartiere. Dar situatia s-ar putea schimba peste doi-trei ani, cand este planificata inaugurarea unei linii feroviare metropolitane pe actualul traseu al centurii de cale ferata a Bucurestiului. In prezent, pe cei 72 de kilometri ai centurii sunt 11 statii CFR.
La acestea se vor adauga 14 noi puncte de oprire, situate la marea majoritate a iesirilor din oras. Acestea vor fi, practic, simple peroane dotate cu copertine si panouri de informatii. „Trenurile vor pleca din Gara de Nord, vor inconjura orasul, dupa care se vor intoarce in Gara de Nord. Frecventa de circulatie va fi de o ora, cu intervale mai mici in perioadele de varf ale zilei.
Intregul circuit va fi parcurs in circa o ora si zece minute", explica Gheorghe Dobre, ministrul Transporturilor, Constructiilor si Turismului. El vrea ca pe aceasta linie sa circule automotoare Desiro, cunoscute sub numele Sageata Albastra, care, de altfel, sunt proiectate pentru calatorii pe distante scurte si medii.
Lucrarile, care vor fi finantate dintr-un credit extern si ar putea incepe chiar in acest an, presupun mai intai reabilitarea actualei infrastructuri de cale ferata astfel incat sa permita cresterea vitezei de rulare de la 30-40 de kilometri pe ora, cat este acum pe o sectiune din partea de sud a centurii, la 60-80 de kilometri pe ora.
Ministrul Dobre spune ca tariful pentru calatoria cu trenul metropolitan va fi identic cu cel pentru o calatorie cu mijloacele RATB sau cu metroul. La Primaria Capitalei exista un proiect privind unificarea sistemului de taxare pe mijloacele de transport in comun, care va fi gata pana la sfarsitul acestui an.
Pentru ca noul tip de transport sa functioneze eficient este nevoie ca si RATB si Metrorex sa-si ajusteze traseele si orarele de circulatie. Ministerul Transporturilor cauta bani pentru finalizarea liniei de metrou Nicolae Grigorescu-Policolor-Centura si pentru extinderea pana la Centura de Sud a magistralei IMGB-Pipera.
Si regia de transport urban, confruntata cu supraaglomerarea liniilor proprii, pe care le deserveste cu un parc auto depasit, va avea de castigat de pe urma acestei initiative. Se va reduce numarul de pasageri pe unele rute pe care in prezent mijloacele sale de transport nu fac fata.
In acelasi timp, exista posibilitatea ca unele linii sa fie extinse pentru a face conexiunea cu noile statii metropolitane. Avantajele generale ale proiectului sunt evidente. Pe langa fluidizarea traficului in interiorul orasului, linia metropolitana va deservi noile zone rezidentiale si comerciale care se dezvolta in ritm sustinut la marginea orasului, dar si perimetrele industriale.
In plus, acest tip de transport este nepoluant si mult mai rapid decat cel rutier. „Trebuie sa tinem cont de faptul ca in prezent in Capitala sunt inmatriculate in jur de 700.000 de autoturisme, la care se adauga mii de vehicule de transport marfa si calatori. Cred ca oamenii o sa dea navala", afirma ministrul.
Autoritatile au propus finantatorilor de la Banca Europeana de Investitii sa ia in calcul realizarea unor proiecte similare si in alte trei orase mari din Romania. Printre acestea s-ar putea numara Ploiesti, Brasov sau Timisoara, insa o decizie definitiva nu a fost luata. Pe lista investitiilor vizate pentru transportul feroviar din Bucuresti se gaseste si Gara de Nord.
Aceasta urmeaza sa fie consolidata si modernizata, astfel incat sa fie adusa la rangul de euro-gara. Apoi, vor fi construite noi linii feroviare metropolitane.
Una dintre ele ar urma sa lege Gara Baneasa, aeroportul Baneasa si aeroportul Henri Coanda, in timp ce alta va utiliza actuala cale ferata industriala din zonele Grozavesti-Trafic Greu-Ferentari, pentru a face conexiunea intre Gara de Nord si Gara Progresu.
CUM VA ARATA RETEAUA
• Lungime totala: 72 km • Numar statii existente: 11 (16 Februarie, Chiajna, Bucuresti Vest, Varteju, Jilava, Berceni, Popesti-Leordeni, Voluntari, Otopeni, Mogosoaia si din nou 16 Februarie) • Numar puncte de oprire proiectate: 14 (Bd. Uverturii/Chiajna, A1, Prel. Ghencea, Sos. Alexandriei, Sos. Bucuresti-Magurele, Sos. Giurgiului, Sos. Berceni, Sos. Oltenitei, Bd. Theodor Pallady/comuna Catelu, Pantelimon, iesirile spre Draganesti, Stefanesti si Tunari, Sos. Bucuresti-Ploiesti) • Timp estimat de parcurs: o ora si zece minute • Trenuri utilizate: automotoare Desiro (Sageata Albastra) • Viteza maxima de circulatie: 80 km/ora • Planuri de extindere: Gara Baneasa-Aeroport Baneasa-Aeroport Otopeni, Gara de Nord-Trafic Greu-Gara Progresu.
TRANSPORTUL IN COMUN IN BUCURESTI
• Cele patru magistrale ale retelei de metrou insumeaza peste 62 de kilometri si 45 de statii. Sunt utilizate 50 de trenuri, care transporta zilnic circa 350.000-400.000 de calatori. • RATB administreaza 174 de trasee cu 2.523 de statii. Pe acestea circula 339 de tramvaie, 203 troleibuze si 857 autobuze. Numarul mediu zilnic de calatori transportati este de 3,14 milioane. Aproape trei sferturi din totalul autobuzelor au durata de viata expirata. • Anul acesta se preconizeaza achizitionarea unor mijloace de transport in comun noi.
Arhitecture
[edit]I understand the Bucharest Metro is pretty special in that every station is unique. Each one has a different style and different arhitecture. I found no mention in the article about this or the arhitecture of the network. Is this true?
- Very true. Ranging from stations with pillars to stations held by arches, such as Titan Station. Some stations have similar architecture, mosaic tiles can be seen in many old stations. The M3 Line (more like the new part of it, towards Anghel Saligny) features a clean, simple, modern two-colour design. 188.26.170.0 (talk) 02:37, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
POV
[edit]On the whole this is a good article; however, there are some strongly POV statements that need to be redacted in my opinion. I, for one, do not find things in Metro stations like mosaics to be "useless", I find them often to be quite attractive. Whether they are or are not is a matter of taste and viewpoint and hence does not belong in a NPOV article, only the facts with regard to their presence or absence does. For now, I will attempt to limit my editing to the putting of passages into what I regard to be more formalised and idiomatic English; please feel free to improve on this. Rlquall 21:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Rolling Stock
[edit]The list of train names just keeps getting bigger and I don't think it is that important. Plus, it is not very accurate: some trains bearing capital city names are actually traveling on M2 instead of M1/M3 (Paris and Helsinki). We should remove the list or place it in a more obscure place. apancu | Talk 20:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Future lines map
[edit]The current plans map is SF and totally incorrect. (File:Harta reţelei bucureştene de metrou (actuale şi planificate).GIF). It does not present the correct routes of the 4 planed lines and extensions of the present ones. Most of the lines there haven't even been envisioned by the management of Metrorex. It's some guy's wet dream, and a bad one at that.
A correct map is the following:
Plans map —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayceman (talk • contribs) 15:46, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
M5 cost?
[edit]"The expected construction cost is 740 euros. " That's pretty cheap for 18 km... [/sarcasm]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.12.173.164 (talk) 11:56, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for spotting the typo. Expected construction cost corrected to 740 million euros as per referenced article. --Chaleyer61 (talk) 12:08, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Given that the article is about the metro would a map that features the metro lines be more appropriate? Johnotm (talk) 00:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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